DJ_FunDaBounce Advanced Member
Colombia
1,099 posts Joined: Nov, 2001
Posted - 2020/03/29 : 16:18:13
These are all great controllers, if you have the money.
Personally I'd go for the ddj800, perhaps as it's a huge step up from the one I have (wego), yet the least expensive of the bunch. I'd even go for a ddj400 as it's got something the wego doesn't: a gain knob on the mixer channels.
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trippnface Advanced Member
United States
659 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2020/03/29 : 17:30:22
Thanks for suggestions.
ok , after more research, I see that I don't want something that needs to a labtop to function, and would like something with both cd drives & usb ports.
trippnface Advanced Member
United States
659 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2020/03/29 : 20:09:36
quote:Originally posted by MusicILove:
I have been trying to get to reply to this but my WiFi isn?t allowing me to access the forum. On 4G now. It depends on the features you want. For players with both CD drives and USB ports your options for new equipment are.
CDJ 350 https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-gb/product/player/cdj-350/black/overview/ This was released in 2009 along with the original CDJ 2000 & CDJ 900. It?s a good basic player it has looping and a loop cutter although the loops are not using beat grids. It has a BPM lock allowing you to set the BPM of each track without using the pitch slider.
Warning about large library?s. I found this and the CDJ 850 don?t handle over 1000 tracks very well and get slow.
CDJ 850 https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-gb/product/player/cdj-850/black/overview/ This was released in 2010 in response to the complaints about the price of the CDJ 900. It was designed to look and feel like the CDJ 800MK2 and was sold at a similar price. In 2012 the black model was released and is the only new model available today. It doesn?t have BPM lock or the loop cutter but it does have its own beat loops like the CDJ 800MK2 with the ability to change the modes to access smaller loops. It has the same high resolution pitch from the higher end players unlike the CDJ 800 MK2
Also this and the CDJ 350 can't do 100% pitch modes with digital files only on CD audio. They also don?t use beat grids just the Rekordbox BPM value. They also don?t have as accurate loops as the higher end players.
Released in 2013 It?s an upgrade to the CDJ 900. It lost the tilted display of the original and high end players but has most of the features of a CDJ 2000 Nexus. It is only missing Hot Cues. Instead it has an expanded beat loop section from the CDJ 850 / Original CDJ 900. Which Allows for slip rolls.
Some advice. Try looking at a Pioneer DJ authorised store. I wouldn?t necessarily trust the prices all the support of sellers and Amazon.
I know of only one in the US which is the DJ TechTools store.
If you have any questions feel free to ask. I can also advise on mixers :)
word, thanks man!
I suppose I would be willing to purchase middle of the road cdj's, i was leaning toward a controller until i learn to beat match, cuz id feel a bit ridiculous spending a couple thousand with basically zero experience or skill level lol. might be used for outdoor parties and such as well instead of a strictly home setup, and i'd prefer to not have to drag 2 seperate cdj's around & a mixer. Though I don't really want to purchase 2nd hand from someone i don't know, and all the new cdj's are expensive as hell.
Guess I will have to think on this one!
As far as mixers go, is a 4 channel really necessary? a competent dj should be able to have flawless transitions & possibly live mash up with 2 channels if he knows what he's doin, yeah?
quote:Originally posted by trippnface:
Another question, what's up with pioneer vs denon, any serious differences in price vs value?
As of the past few years Denon has been pushing for more innovation in the market, bringing the same or more features when compared to a similarly featured Pioneer product for less money.
Requiring CD in a standalone will bring the cost up, no matter how you look at it.
looks like the Pioneer standalone mixers that aren't a modular setup have already been covered.
If you are okay with ripping ahead of time and using USBs (or for some units, a hard drive), denon has a few options:
Prime 4
Prime 2
Prime GO
MCX8000
Prime 4 is the big daddy, and gives you four channels to mix, with two internal players and two zone outputs (your master mix, and a seperate zone if you want to pipe a playlist to a different room)
Prime 2 is very similar to the Prime 4, but with a reduced feature set (notably, less mixer channels and no seperate zone output)
Prime GO is similar to the Prime 2 in more ways than would be expected, with the perk of it having a built-in rechargeable battery.
MCX8000 was the first Prime player to come to market. It's built-in playback is similar to a pair of basic modular players, but with a four track mixer that can still take outside inputs, and supports on-the-fly and hybrid switching between the built-in players, a PC, or Line/Phono-in sources.
I would say I'm not biased towards Denon, but I've had this MCX8000 for a while now, which doesn't help....Also AMA if you can't find something out about the MCX8000.
trippnface Advanced Member
United States
659 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2020/03/31 : 07:38:06
quote:Originally posted by AWal:
quote:Originally posted by trippnface:
Another question, what's up with pioneer vs denon, any serious differences in price vs value?
As of the past few years Denon has been pushing for more innovation in the market, bringing the same or more features when compared to a similarly featured Pioneer product for less money.
Requiring CD in a standalone will bring the cost up, no matter how you look at it.
looks like the Pioneer standalone mixers that aren't a modular setup have already been covered.
If you are okay with ripping ahead of time and using USBs (or for some units, a hard drive), denon has a few options:
Prime 4
Prime 2
Prime GO
MCX8000
Prime 4 is the big daddy, and gives you four channels to mix, with two internal players and two zone outputs (your master mix, and a seperate zone if you want to pipe a playlist to a different room)
Prime 2 is very similar to the Prime 4, but with a reduced feature set (notably, less mixer channels and no seperate zone output)
Prime GO is similar to the Prime 2 in more ways than would be expected, with the perk of it having a built-in rechargeable battery.
MCX8000 was the first Prime player to come to market. It's built-in playback is similar to a pair of basic modular players, but with a four track mixer that can still take outside inputs, and supports on-the-fly and hybrid switching between the built-in players, a PC, or Line/Phono-in sources.
I would say I'm not biased towards Denon, but I've had this MCX8000 for a while now, which doesn't help....Also AMA if you can't find something out about the MCX8000.
the mapping has been made with traktor v2.8.0, all the buttons on the DDJ-RX console will work as the label says, with 4 decks, 4 FX units and 4 Remix decks, the only changes are as follows :
browser back button = scroll down tree list browser tag button = scroll up tree list browser knob button push = expand tree list mixer channel FX 1 & 2 = will load next/previous track in browser slip/vinyl button = will switch between track and remix deck mode on deck layers 1,2,3,4 grid adjust button = will increase the slicers, freezemode steps to match the number of pads grid slide button = will decrease the slicers, freezemode steps shift + FX unit knob = select FX when Fx unit is in group mode shift + needle touch strip = zoom in on waveform
the only "bug" is when you first power on or load traktor, you will need to press deck layer buttons 1 & 2 to enable a modifier which will allow the FX units to work, along with FX units 3 & 4 for decks C & D
I also have'nt included any pad FX
when a remix deck is being used, you will need the sampler pads, which only play 2 samples on each slot of a deck
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Posted - 2020/03/29 : 04:09:21
