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choonland
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Posted - 2008/07/24 :  06:21:22  Show profile Send a private message  Visit choonland's homepage
Im constantly worried about this, i've always have a good ear and Im ok now, but who knows in the future... its just too many hours at too loud volume.... i always say, "oh, i got to do it at a lower level" but sooner or later it gous up!

anyone else?


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Posted - 2008/07/24 :  06:29:37  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Rayovac's homepage
I doubt you'll go deaf. You can damage those hairs though if you have it loud enough. Usually I can listen to music loud fine, as long as I'm not wearing headphones. If it feels too loud just turn it down a bit. And listen to your instinct too. Several times I've gone deaf for a few seconds because I made a mistake while making some music.

I'm only 15 and I get ringing in my ears.


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Posted - 2008/07/24 :  06:49:41  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Vitalism's homepage
i think people put the volume up to loud in general. i worry about the same stuff.

what you're supposed to do is turn the volume all the way down, then slowly turn it up until you can clearly hear every sound. this is supposed to be the "ideal" level, however, music sounds a lot better when it is at ear-bleedingly loud levels.

try wearing earplugs at raves, i've found that helps. nothing is worse than being sketchy and deaf/having a ringing in your ears. i've even shoved tiny pieces of toilet paper in my ears at a party before where it was way too ridiculously loud. it helps.


if i'm gonna go deaf, it's gonna be from something i love. not banging a hammer everyday or something. and you'll never be totally deaf i don't think. just hard of hearing. we all have a ringing in our ears i would think.


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Meathead
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Posted - 2008/07/24 :  14:04:03  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Meathead's homepage
I am a bit worried about lefty at the minute. It does sound like everything's muffled for a bit at times. It scares the shit outta me to think what would happen if i actually went deaf. I've even disconnected the ear popping sub i had in my car because the bass was just pissing away my hearing lol.

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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2008/07/24 :  15:53:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Ken Masters's homepage
Yeah, I know what you mean lad's. I worry about that aswell but i've heard of special headphones & ear plugs that most of the big DJ's wear now. I'm sure I read somewhere that Scott Brown had a pair. If he was to lose his hearing it would be a disaster cause really, that's his life. I'm going to them up & find out how much they are. I've heard they're pretty damn expensive but I suppose it's a better price to pay than loosing your f**ckin hearing!

I also heard of Tall Paul using these headphones/earplugs as he got tinitous (probs not how you spell it) & got to a real dodgy stage of his carrear but he forked out for these nu headphones & it's pretty much saved his carrear. What they do is only let certain frequencies through which is all you need for mixing but it reduces the background noise, which mean u ain't ripping your ears to s**t!


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DJ_Axiom
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Posted - 2008/07/24 :  15:57:04  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ_Axiom's homepage
Yea Im worried about this too. I know when I DJ I leave my left earphone off and the right one stays on, so when Im done theres a difference in hearing between the two.

I wouldnt be surprised if I destroyed my hearing by like 25 lol.


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Posted - 2008/07/24 :  15:59:50  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Audio Specialist's homepage
Wear earplugs.



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Compulsion
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I have eilacin pro plugs and sennheiser hd25's to restrict noise when gig'ing, I also NEVER use club monitors, just split the chanels on the desk into the headphones.

Reg' of all this I now suffer (quite badly) from tinitus, I have to go to a specialist in two week's to have tests done and be diagnosed by a doctor. Real shame as it means I can't go to clubs unless I'm playing so buy buy social life! It's not that bad on the grand scale of things but it does mean I no longer know the meaning of the word 'Peace and quiet'. As soon as I'm in a silent room I'm deafened by the noise.

It's a condition of the brain though so as soon as the doctor labels it I'm going to seek hypnotherapy on the NHS to try turn it off.

Just look after your ear's people, It may seem funny now listening to loud music and blowing your ears out at raves but trust me, When you **** them up they never get better. I've always been super carefull with ear defenders / headcans / staying out of the way of speakers etc and yet I still have the damage, Just look after your hearing is all I can say!



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Posted - 2008/07/24 :  16:11:08  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Audio Specialist's homepage
Ouch Compulsion.

You know what is funny, I never seem to find I can damage my ears at raves no matter how loud the music is. I dunno why. :( I just want it more louder and louder. But who knows if it damaging me ear or not. :(


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Posted - 2008/07/24 :  16:32:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Vitalism's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Axiom:
Yea Im worried about this too. I know when I DJ I leave my left earphone off and the right one stays on, so when Im done theres a difference in hearing between the two.

I wouldnt be surprised if I destroyed my hearing by like 25 lol.



i think you use lol too much.

i see nothing funny about that statement.

and alternating ears might be a smart idea.


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quote:
Originally posted by Audio Specialist:
Ouch Compulsion.

You know what is funny, I never seem to find I can damage my ears at raves no matter how loud the music is. I dunno why. :( I just want it more louder and louder. But who knows if it damaging me ear or not. :(



fact: if you're not wearing earplugs at a rave, you are damaging your hearing. you're an idiot if you think you aren't, just because you want it "more louder and louder".

i mean really - how do you not notice a ringing in your ears after a party?


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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2008/07/24 :  17:21:23  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Ken Masters's homepage
I'm really sorry to hear that Compulsion. I can't imagine what it would be like. At least you can still get the gig's done & keep doing what you love mate;-) My ears have never been 100% since I was young so i'm going to get sorted out with these sennheiser hd25's & eilacin pro plugs cause i'm a man that can take your advice. After all, i'm pretty confident that I can make a dent in the scene but not with Tinitus.

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I worry about this all the time lol

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quote:
Originally posted by Audio Specialist:

....I never seem to find I can damage my ears at raves....




At 18 that's not too surprising but by 25 everyones' ears start to lose the upper frequencies.

If you guys ain't careful now you'll lose more than average by that age and develop tinitus as well.

Modern production techniques help to keep the really nasty frequencies under control unlike the early days when
there were some very badly produced tracks that murdered the ears.

There's an awful lot of old ravers that don't enjoy silence anymore.


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There wasn't much of a concern for me for much of my life i always was comfortable with my music, always got my ipod with me whenever i go anywhere to keep entertained. The time i got seriously pissed off at (well, still am...) is my headphones which go round the back of my head broke, so i bought a pair of earphones just in the mean time. The pair i bought sit deep in the ear, and to this day i never stop regretting it. Didn't realise how loud i had it and it seriously ****ed my ears. This was about 30 minutes after buying them. Wanted to cry thinking i was gonna lose my hearing, it was scaring as fook.

My right ear has tinnitus badly. I can be sitting in my room in silence and all of a sudden i hear a sharp high pitch constant noise in the ear, and it is so painful. not often it happens but still horrible when it strikes.

All this crap, down to those stupid bloody in ear phones. My own fault i should have been more careful, but its deceptive how loud it is, and it was then too late. Got the head band ones and have them on full and sounds low to me, then i take them off and realise how loud they actually are. Nasty business hearing loss. I wear earplugs for raves now, got a set especially for it. I do highly recommend it coz it can actually make the sound better muting out the higher pitched tones so its also less painful and your ears don't ring the next day (as much anyway).

essay there, sorry about that, but its not nice, i cannot stress enough how important it is to look after your hearing.


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Cheers Jester, i'll definetly take that on board mate. I've been using in ear headphones since early high school but have never returned to them since I was getting pains in my ear.

Every DJ & producer should take notice of all these guy's with tinitus! It's too easy to brush it aside & forget about it. Before you know it, it will be too late!

I'm glad u posted this topic manuelf. I'll defimetly be splashing out for sum noise reduction headphones & ear plugs.


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