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choonland
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 Posted - 2009/05/02 : 02:09:00
yeah, once again the controversy...
I've heard that most music artists (the big names at least) make their huge fortunes mostly from touring and live acts, rather than selling cds, so this leads me to the question: ¿why should I buy legal stuff if they are already rich enough with the money from touring?
same with movies, big film studios recover their investment and gain millions and millions only with the tickets in theathers, so why bother buying legal DVDs?
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FingazMc
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Posted - 2009/05/02 : 02:29:49
Because if everyone thought like that then they wouldnt make all this money so you wouldnt think it was ok to fileshare....
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choonland
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Posted - 2009/05/02 : 02:35:41
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Because if everyone thought like that then they wouldnt make all this money so you wouldnt think it was ok to fileshare....
No, because i would still go to see the shows and to the teathers...
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TheOneNOnly
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Posted - 2009/05/02 : 02:52:37
Because many of the not-so-known artists don't tour, no matter how epic their track is.
Not everyone is out touring and making "huge dollars", so your theory is wrong if you look at the Music Industry from a whole, not just the biggest stars.
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2009/05/02 : 03:15:15
and who's going to determine who's music we can and cannot fileshare? it's a matter of preference, and genre. that's something that you can't physically determine that won't cost an epic argument.
and also, at what income do we determine an artist is making is too much? it is unjustified to say that it's ok to fileshare britney spears shit no matter how shitty her music is, but to leave Darwin's tracks out of filesharing. just be on your best behavior and purchas your music. and if you don't purchase your music, don't tell us about it because everyone here will raise hell on you.
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Starstruck
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Posted - 2009/05/02 : 06:35:32
Well it depends, i dont associate myself with Filesharing, i buy everything.. I think it's ****ing pathetic if someone file shares Hardcore.. Not saying you do, but just in general.
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atomsk
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Posted - 2009/05/02 : 07:37:50
i have an idea for the whole wanting money and free stuff
like couldnt someone start a website that had adds to pay the hosing bills and the what $0.98 that the songs cost
so the website would get more money for more views and the songs are free so more people come, and each page would have adds to pay the >$1.00 for the song
would that ever be able to happen
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Starstruck
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Posted - 2009/05/02 : 08:49:58
Well thats not really the point.. artists put alot of hard work in a track and i think it's fair to pay a couple of pounds for a good track that has had alot of time spent into it...
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2009/05/02 : 09:29:12
i think it should be up to the artist, but can it be controlled? i dont think so, not anymore...
i also think there is somthing to be said for older cds that you cannot buy new, for instance ebay...
i can buy cds off ebay - nodoby is getting any money for that apart from the person selling the cd - because the cds already been bought..
if it wasnt for people ripping their cds (not refering to filesharing) the cds would eventually dissapear, i have cds from the early 90's that are already showing there age, some if i hadnt have backed them up to my harddrive, wont even play properly...
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silver
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Posted - 2009/05/02 : 11:09:26
That theory is BS, you dont make money on tours and live acts unless your britney.
I think an artist has the right to do what they want with their music, it's their music they can do what they want with it, no one else should make the choice for them. If they want to give it away good on them, if they want 99cents for it, great stuff... it's upto them... Besides not paying for music is like not paying for material to build your house and then claiming the workers should be paid to build it not for the materials, then you wonder why your ****ing house falls apart and start blaming the builders.
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Posted - 2009/05/02 : 11:45:14
This is the most stupid thread I've read today.
It's like that; accept it.
If you spend so much time on working on a track, you want to get a reward for it. Imagine you would have done something incredible, very original ( nothing to do with music ), would you give it away just like that ? Ahh well I don't think so.
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djwilson
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Posted - 2009/05/02 : 12:07:58
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
This is the most stupid thread I've read today.
It's like that; accept it.
If you spend so much time on working on a track, you want to get a reward for it. Imagine you would have done something incredible, very original ( nothing to do with music ), would you give it away just like that ? Ahh well I don't think so.
Nope, Ill be straight on dragons den :D
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Shades
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Posted - 2009/05/02 : 12:11:22
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Nope, Ill be straight on dragons den :D
well in that case...... I'm out 
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Posted - 2009/05/02 : 16:30:49
the way i see it is... if its illegal to start with then damn right file share it, like tape/cd packs... thats all i download these days. as silver said, it should be up to the artist.. but has we have the things at our service to fileshare then people are going to do it.
if the internet was policed properly then file sharing would reduce, but it isnt
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choonland
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Posted - 2009/05/02 : 16:32:59
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Originally posted by Starstruck:
Well it depends, i dont associate myself with Filesharing, i buy everything.. I think it's ****ing pathetic if someone file shares Hardcore.. Not saying you do, but just in general.
i don't fileshare anymore, but i confess I used to, in fact if it wasn't for filesharing I would never have known hardcore in the first place, and I'm sure same happened to a lot of people out there
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also, I DO think hardcore artists should be paid (hell, I want to be paid for my tracks too), but some of you guys have told me in other threads that you can't really make a living and pay the bills selling tracks, so... why charge for them? most of us make hardcore because we love to, and can't stop doing it, not because we wanna earn money....
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Posted - 2009/05/02 : 17:34:39
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Originally posted by Naturatech:
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Originally posted by Starstruck:
Well it depends, i dont associate myself with Filesharing, i buy everything.. I think it's ****ing pathetic if someone file shares Hardcore.. Not saying you do, but just in general.
i don't fileshare anymore, but i confess I used to, in fact if it wasn't for filesharing I would never have known hardcore in the first place, and I'm sure same happened to a lot of people out there
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also, I DO think hardcore artists should be paid (hell, I want to be paid for my tracks too), but some of you guys have told me in other threads that you can't really make a living and pay the bills selling tracks, so... why charge for them? most of us make hardcore because we love to, and can't stop doing it, not because we wanna earn money....
i completely disagree,
all that "Cant pay the bills" nonsense is true, its not like you're going to make a living from Hardcore unless you're Hixxy, but how does that make you say that just because producers dont get paid enough, we should sell tracks that we put alot of time and effort and love in for free? Why charge for them? Because it's keeping Hardcore alive! That'd be a pointless scene, people making music for no money. I couldn't disagree with you more
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